On this week's episode Joe and Tim discuss Genesis 1:6-8, in which God creates the "firmament," a barrier separating the waters above from those below, establishing a distinction between heaven and earth. They emphasize that this division is a deliberate act of creation, not a consequence of sin, highlighting God's distinct dwelling place. They explore the symbolism of water as both life-giving and chaotic, and how God brings order to it. The conversation also touches upon the idea that creation was designed to mature and will ultimately see a unification of heaven and earth, a trajectory that was already in place before the fall..